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	<title>Comments on: Referrer Detector 2.1.1 and a little bit more</title>
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		<title>By: Jacob Share from Group Writing Projects</title>
		<link>http://www.phoenixheart.net/2008/12/referrer-detector-211-and-a-little-bit-more/comment-page-1/#comment-346</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Share from Group Writing Projects</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phan,
I respect Thaya and will probably even use his plugin for now (I like the timeout feature). I also understand his frustrations but frankly- welcome to opensource. If he doesn&#039;t like it,  he shouldn&#039;t do it. Even if you didn&#039;t copy his code (which wouldn&#039;t bother me as long as his license is respected), I don&#039;t see any issue with being a better marketer and/or copying his new features. He of course can do the same back at you. Competing businesses play this game all the time, OSS just makes it much easier.

I think you&#039;re being very cool about this situation and you sound upstanding. Good for you. Keep doing your thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phan,<br />
I respect Thaya and will probably even use his plugin for now (I like the timeout feature). I also understand his frustrations but frankly- welcome to opensource. If he doesn&#8217;t like it,  he shouldn&#8217;t do it. Even if you didn&#8217;t copy his code (which wouldn&#8217;t bother me as long as his license is respected), I don&#8217;t see any issue with being a better marketer and/or copying his new features. He of course can do the same back at you. Competing businesses play this game all the time, OSS just makes it much easier.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re being very cool about this situation and you sound upstanding. Good for you. Keep doing your thing.</p>
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		<title>By: phoenix.heart</title>
		<link>http://www.phoenixheart.net/2008/12/referrer-detector-211-and-a-little-bit-more/comment-page-1/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>phoenix.heart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Artem, thanks for your comment but I couldn&#039;t agree ;)
I stress again: apart from the initial concept, I didn&#039;t &quot;borrow&quot; anything from Thaya, leave alone &quot;from time to time&quot;. I didn&#039;t even read his code ;) so I can promise, if you look into our code, you&#039;ll find it hard to see anything in common. Well, in fact, as I looked into his code several days ago (the first time I did it), I even saw that he copied a large potion of JavaScript code and ideas from my own plugin. 
Sure, you can go with WPGB and I&#039;ll say it&#039;s a good choice. But imho there&#039;s no need for you to go frown upon me and my plugin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artem, thanks for your comment but I couldn&#8217;t agree <img src='http://www.phoenixheart.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I stress again: apart from the initial concept, I didn&#8217;t &#8220;borrow&#8221; anything from Thaya, leave alone &#8220;from time to time&#8221;. I didn&#8217;t even read his code <img src='http://www.phoenixheart.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  so I can promise, if you look into our code, you&#8217;ll find it hard to see anything in common. Well, in fact, as I looked into his code several days ago (the first time I did it), I even saw that he copied a large potion of JavaScript code and ideas from my own plugin.<br />
Sure, you can go with WPGB and I&#8217;ll say it&#8217;s a good choice. But imho there&#8217;s no need for you to go frown upon me and my plugin.</p>
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		<title>By: Artem Russakovskii</title>
		<link>http://www.phoenixheart.net/2008/12/referrer-detector-211-and-a-little-bit-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>Artem Russakovskii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that while your project is different from Thaya&#039;s, you borrow heavily against it. It&#039;s OK to do it from time to time, considering it&#039;s open source but such heavy borrowing is frowned upon.

He comes out with a feature, you immediately copy it, he comes out with another - same thing, you even refer to the box as &quot;greet box&quot;, a term you hardly came up with. Your plugin is essentially the same as his, with a few extra features tacked on, to be different. Again, I also frown upon this.

Having seen the AJAX-related vulnerability and how long it took you to find it, I am going with GreetBox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that while your project is different from Thaya&#8217;s, you borrow heavily against it. It&#8217;s OK to do it from time to time, considering it&#8217;s open source but such heavy borrowing is frowned upon.</p>
<p>He comes out with a feature, you immediately copy it, he comes out with another &#8211; same thing, you even refer to the box as &#8220;greet box&#8221;, a term you hardly came up with. Your plugin is essentially the same as his, with a few extra features tacked on, to be different. Again, I also frown upon this.</p>
<p>Having seen the AJAX-related vulnerability and how long it took you to find it, I am going with GreetBox.</p>
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		<title>By: phoenix.heart</title>
		<link>http://www.phoenixheart.net/2008/12/referrer-detector-211-and-a-little-bit-more/comment-page-1/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>phoenix.heart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome, Rory ;) 
For me I should take care of this bug...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome, Rory <img src='http://www.phoenixheart.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
For me I should take care of this bug&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
		<link>http://www.phoenixheart.net/2008/12/referrer-detector-211-and-a-little-bit-more/comment-page-1/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, works. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, works. <img src='http://www.phoenixheart.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: phoenix.heart</title>
		<link>http://www.phoenixheart.net/2008/12/referrer-detector-211-and-a-little-bit-more/comment-page-1/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>phoenix.heart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rory, could you try pasting this line into line 162 of the file wp-content/referrer-detector/reffer_detector.php?

print(&#039;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://jqueryjs.googlecode.com/files/jquery-1.2.6.min.js&quot;&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&#039;);

and try again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rory, could you try pasting this line into line 162 of the file wp-content/referrer-detector/reffer_detector.php?</p>
<p>print(&#8216;&lt;script type=&#8221;text/javascript&#8221; src=&#8221;http://jqueryjs.googlecode.com/files/jquery-1.2.6.min.js&#8221;&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&#8217;);</p>
<p>and try again?</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
		<link>http://www.phoenixheart.net/2008/12/referrer-detector-211-and-a-little-bit-more/comment-page-1/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Error: jQuery is not defined

Source File: http://www.roryhansen.ca/wp-content/plugins/referrer-detector/js/jquery-ui-personalized.js

Line: 23

Error: jQuery is not defined

Source File: http://www.roryhansen.ca/wp-content/plugins/referrer-detector/js/jquery.livequery.js 
Line: 11

Error: jQuery is not defined
Source
File: http://www.roryhansen.ca/wp-content/plugins/referrer-detector/js/admin_onload.js

Line: 1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Error: jQuery is not defined</p>
<p>Source File: <a href="http://www.roryhansen.ca/wp-content/plugins/referrer-detector/js/jquery-ui-personalized.js" rel="nofollow">http://www.roryhansen.ca/wp-content/plugins/referrer-detector/js/jquery-ui-personalized.js</a></p>
<p>Line: 23</p>
<p>Error: jQuery is not defined</p>
<p>Source File: <a href="http://www.roryhansen.ca/wp-content/plugins/referrer-detector/js/jquery.livequery.js" rel="nofollow">http://www.roryhansen.ca/wp-content/plugins/referrer-detector/js/jquery.livequery.js</a><br />
Line: 11</p>
<p>Error: jQuery is not defined<br />
Source<br />
File: <a href="http://www.roryhansen.ca/wp-content/plugins/referrer-detector/js/admin_onload.js" rel="nofollow">http://www.roryhansen.ca/wp-content/plugins/referrer-detector/js/admin_onload.js</a></p>
<p>Line: 1</p>
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		<title>By: phoenix.heart</title>
		<link>http://www.phoenixheart.net/2008/12/referrer-detector-211-and-a-little-bit-more/comment-page-1/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>phoenix.heart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid that error from IE won&#039;t help much... Could you install Firebug extension for FF and see the errors? Thanks in advance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid that error from IE won&#8217;t help much&#8230; Could you install Firebug extension for FF and see the errors? Thanks in advance!</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll need to excuse the crappy IE error message. I can&#039;t seem to get an error message out of Firefox (2 and 3), the links just do nothing.

IE7 javascript error:
Line: 2
Char: 1
Error: Object expected
Code: 0
URL: http://www.roryhansen.ca/wp-admin/options-general.php?page=referrer_detector.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll need to excuse the crappy IE error message. I can&#8217;t seem to get an error message out of Firefox (2 and 3), the links just do nothing.</p>
<p>IE7 javascript error:<br />
Line: 2<br />
Char: 1<br />
Error: Object expected<br />
Code: 0<br />
URL: <a href="http://www.roryhansen.ca/wp-admin/options-general.php?page=referrer_detector.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.roryhansen.ca/wp-admin/options-general.php?page=referrer_detector.php</a></p>
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